False Dates Slideshow

Tuesday, December 30, 2008

The New Family Study Night, What Will Be The Fare?

Imagine, a Bible study without the "watchtower's take" on things. What I would recommend doing is they read any other translation but their own, since it has been polluted with the expressions of demons through Johannes Greber.

If they MUST study their own mistranslation then I highly recommend they USE THE FOOTNOTES. They will see just how the watchtower alters the scriptures to fit their teachings. Like the one your Gilead buddy focused on, Revelation 1:10. The witness doctrine for 1914 hinges on this misquote by the watchtower.

NWT Rev 10:1 By inspiration I came to be in the Lord’s Day,

NWT Footnote on Lord's Day
“By inspiration.” Or, “In spirit.” Gr., en pneu′ma·ti; Lat., in spi′ri·tu.

Or, “I came to be under inspiration on the Lord’s Day.”

That subtle difference from John being IN the Lord's day to being On the Lord's day makes or breaks their 1914 doctrine.
"Hence, this first vision and the counsel it contains are for the Lord’s day, from 1914 onward." (Revelation book page 22 paragraph 4).

By saying John was IN the Lord's Day then the 1914 doctrine might have some weight, but it does not really say that as the footnote bears out. By checking other translations of the Bible they simply print out as the footnote indicates. "ON the Lord's day". This totally changes the meaning of the vision's timing.

The task of getting people to open their minds to accept the Real Jesus is going to be very difficult because of the degree of brainwashing in play. The Watchtower has its own brand of circular reasoning that depends on people not thinking.








They are playing with people's lives and that is why we should all pray for the Jehovah's Witnesses to come to the Real Lord Jesus.

Sunday, December 28, 2008

What Does The Governing Body Actually Do Anyway?

The short answer is, not much anymore. The Watchtower Corporation's Legal Department is engaging in what I call Douchebaggery™ by dictating many of the changes of late in order to protect their BILLIONS of dollars in assets from lawsuits. The lawsuits range from pedophilia scandals to wrongful death and anywhere in between.

The long answer would be that the governing body is supposed to function as the SOLE CHANNEL of communication from Almighty God on earth. It is their responsibility to "feed" Jesus' lambs by providing spiritual food at its proper time. Whether or not they are doing this or are even the so called faithful and discreet slave are debatable issues for another thread.

It seems to me that while the governing body is fairly secretive in their actions, they are not really trying very hard to protect the reputation of the governing body or the society because more and more as time goes by, more people learn about Jehovah's Witnesses and their governing body, the more people find out very unsavory things in their past and even the present. (Pedophilia, wrongful death). Once people find out that the New Light they supposedly receive from Jehovah God is voted on by the governing body it gets sticky. Since when can men correctly over-rule the Word of God?

Douchebaggery---

1)The philosophy held by douchebags, holding that no one other than themselves (or perhaps their close associates) matters in the least bit, and thus that other human beings can and should be treated like complete excrement for little or no reason (and often for selfish reasons). Closely related to fascism, which has been practiced by control freaks such as Adolf Hitler.

2)The act of putting this philosophy into practice.

A) Some notable (historical and otherwise) adherents of douchebaggery: Josef Stalin, Mao Tse Tung, George W. Bush, Adolf Hitler, Andrew Jackson, George Lincoln Rockwell, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan

B) Examples of douchebaggery in practice, varying in scope and intensity (in the order of the above adherents): fascism; violent political oppression; winning an election through obvious fraud and subsequently invading Iraq based on admitted lies; the Holocaust; the genocide of the Native Americans; the founding of the American Nazi Party; more violent political oppression; declaring jihad on an entire country and slaughtering 3,000 innocent cubicle workers as part of it; declaring a War on Drugs based largely on the delusion that "every one of those goddamn bastards out to legalize marijuana is a Jew" (direct quote from President Richard Nixon); treating the Constitution and the natural environment as a set of obstacles to be overcome.

Friday, December 26, 2008

Ex Jw's Must Stay Alert To Attacks From The Watchtower

I got the following from my friend and Brother in the faith, Joe at Christian Witnesses. It has some insightful information I thought you might find useful.Blessings and Agape to you all in Christ Jesus our Lord.

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WHY EX-JW’S MUST STAY EXTRA ALERT IN 2009 AND NOW

Is it coincidence the following things happened just in the past couple weeks? A forum poster or troll poser made comments that sought to set long-time friends Ray Franz and Peter Gregerson against one another. An abused ExJW woman who is Roman Catholic was called a Witch. Bill Bowen who is an independent Christian was called an atheist. Maybe those are just coincidental. Maybe some are, some aren’t. Watchtowerites would sure like to set the ExJWs & Friends community aflame if it but could. Anyway, in the meanwhile Watchtower legal is hoping to find some ExJWs with some of Watchtower’s copyrighted photos and text materials on their websites and who will not remove those. Same old same old as last year. Stay alert into and during all 2009 too.

THREE PAST KANSAS SUICIDES COMING TO LIGHT

A friend in a nearby Kansas town wrote me an extremely nice letter thanking me for helping set him free and keep him free from Watchtower. I phoned and we spoke maybe an hour in the course of which he said that about twenty-one years ago within about a one and a half year span he was in a congregation in or near Emporia, Kansas, that had three JWs to suicide.

He said that one was named Mike S--w. (name removed for privacy). He was not anyone who had, say, been disfellowshiped, but for whatever reasons, his body was found in a car and it was determined that he had deliberately inhaled auto exhaust to die. All the Elders did was give a very quick graveside prayer.

A second suicide was by an older man, Gene A---n., a long-time bachelor who was said to not have kept his house very clean. Who knows? Maybe he was “trimmed, which means to be tongue-lashed by an Elder speaking from up at the front stage, his name left out but guessable, for not being tidy. Doubtlessly he was lonely, too, and seeing that the promised paradise earth had not come -- perhaps those help explain why he suicided.

A third JW was Gene J-----n who was married to a JW Sister. They divorced. He took to partying a while then suicided.We’ll never know all the details, though my friend says most of the Elders who were involved were long-time Elders, and they very likely could tell a whole lot more about these and possibly other JW deaths by suicide etc.

As those who are ExJWs well-know, many active JWs suffer mental problems such as depression which are exacerbated by Watchtower’s policies that cause so much sorrow. As Watchtower implodes and declines, it is necessary for the Ex JWs & Friends community as well as other allied Christians to do more so that a mountain of JWs do not suicide in the years ahead.

Contact me if interested in developing house/home churches that can minister.

http://www.christianwitnesses.com/

Sunday, December 21, 2008

Jehovah's Witnesses What Do They Teach About Sodomites?

Remember the people who died at Sodom and Gomorrah? God killed them after judging them to be too wicked to continue living. Right? So do they come back in the resurrection, at least for judgment?

Wait, He judged them already.

Let's see how the governing body/faithful and discreet slave has worked thru the NEW LIGHT of this issue.


1879 YES the Sodomites will come back in the resurrection.(1879 Watchtower on pages 7 and 8).

1941 NO the Sodomites will NOT come back in the resurrection.(1941 Watchtower on page 367).

1955 Emphasis on NO, they will NOT be back in the resurrection.(1955 Watchtower on page 676).


1965 YES, they WILL be back in the resurrection.(March 1, 1965 Watchtower page 138 paragraph 4 ).


1967 NO, they will NOT be back in the resurrection.(March 1, 1967 watchtower page 136).


1974 YES, they WILL be back in the resurrection.(August 15, 1974 Watchtower page 485).

1988 NO, they will NOT be back in the resurrection.(June 1, 1988 Watchtower page 30).

1988 YES, they WILL be back in the resurrection.(Insight Volume 2 page 985).


1989 NO, they will NOT be back in the resurrection.(Live Forever Book page 179).


As you can see from their own literature, they have flip-flopped EIGHT times and now since 1989, the answer is NO, the Sodomites will NOT return in the resurrection. And that IS FINAL! Or is it??

For being the "Sole channel of communication" and Jehovah's Mouthpiece here on Earth, I have to wonder if Jehovah keeps sending the "Slave Class" conflicting messages, or if these "Nine Blind Guides" of the governing body are just lying about that SOLE channel thing. What do you think? Is God feebleminded, indecisive, and flippant, or is the governing body?

Vindicating The Name Of Jehovah!

Jehovah's Witnesses claim that they are the only group to be vindicating the Mighty Name of Jehovah in all the earth. How are they accomplishing this?

To begin we need to dissect the Tetragrammaton and make sure all is well in Watchtowerland. There are no vowels in the Tetragrammaton, so we have no idea how to pronounce it. It could be Yaweh, Yahwah, YoYo, or even Yippee for all we know. Here is some interesting info:

Dr. J. B. Rotherham states in the preface of his Bible concerning Jehovah: "Erroneously written and pronounced Jehovah, which is merely a combination of the sacred Tetragrammaton and the vowels in the Hebrew word for Lord, substituted by the Jews for JHVH, because they shrank from pronouncing The Name, owing to an old misconception of the two passages, Ex. 20:7 and Lev. 24:16...To give the name JHVH the vowels of the word for Lord [Heb. Adonai], is about as hybrid a combination as it would be to spell the name Germany with the vowels in the name Portugal - viz., Gormuna. The monstrous combination Jehovah is not older than about 1520 A.D." (Truthseek.net)

Jehovah's Witnesses say it is important to use Jehovah and to vindicate His Holy Name. But are they accurate in using Jehovah? No, they even admit it on pages 16 and 18 of the book "Let Your Name Be sanctified" they admit that Yahweh is the superior translation of YHWH.

In the preface of their own "Kingdom Interlinear Translation of the Greek Scriptures" page 23 shares this admission with the reader:"While inclining to view the pronunciation 'Yahweh' as the more correct way, we have retained the form 'Jehovah' because of people's familiarity with it since the 14th century. Moreover, it preserves equally with other forms, the four letters of the Tetragrammaton JHVH."

In other words, they know they have God's Name all wrong, but they are not going to change because people are more familiar with the WRONG NAME? They are VINDICATING an incorrect name because people are familiar with it?

What sort of Vindicating is this?

References

Truthseek.net: http://www.truthseek.net/Yahweh.html

Saturday, December 20, 2008

Painting People With The Wide Brush Of Apostasy

Having been raised as one of Jehovah's Witnesses since the mid 1960's and having been associated with this group until just recently, I can tell you what Jehovah's Witnesses believe heresy to be.To jw's, heresy as a word is relatively unheard within the loaded language of the "Society". The society's preferred word is apostasy. And a heretic is called an apostate.

To qualify for the title of Apostate, one need not curse God or Christ. One does not even have to abandon faith in God. All a jw has to do is disagree with the often inaccurate teachings of the Watchtower's leaders. Voicing a question about the teachings is verboten. One must keep silent about any questions and especially "doubts" they may have or face being "marked" as rebellious like Satan was rebellious. If pushed to the extreme, the jw's will in fact expel one from their midst in the form of shunning and disfellowshippings.

This is odd, because the New Testament has no punishment laid out for apostasy.

Here are some examples of what can be considered apostasy:Attending another church.

Participating in Interfaith activities.
Saying Amen to any prayer other than one given by another jw.
Actively sharing information that unmasks the faulty and unbiblical teachings of the society.

There are many other things that the jw's can slap the apostate label to. For instance, when I heard about the book study arrangement changing from being held in private homes and being moved into the kingdom halls I shared this with my father in law, who is too ill to attend meetings anymore. I told him that the announcement was coming out on a Sunday in about a month or so.

Well, that Sunday came and the announcement was made. I had been correct in every detail. My father in law's brother went to visit him and to share this morsel of food from the faithful and discreet slave "class". When he told my father in law my father in law had no real reaction. He just said, "Yes I know." His brother got agitated and asked how the heck he could know since only the presiding overseer was the only one to know until he told the body of elders 15 minutes before the congregation was even told. He told him that Mister Lorenzo had told him last month. LOL

Well the guy about had a fit. He was all upset and said that I was an apostate for knowing that information. I dunno how having information makes me an apostate, but he is still reeling from the fact that I, an inactive jw at the time knew more than elders did. When I hear new tidbits I share them and wait for the guy to find out I knew months before any elders did. He will eventually stroke out unless he learns to control that temper. I told him that he needs to put on the "New Personality" and work on his fruitage of the Spirit otherwise he will fall into apostasy.

Tuesday, December 16, 2008

Nine Blind Guides. Nine Blind Guides. See How They Change.

The faithful and discreet slave was in the beginnings of the Watchtower Society C.T. Russell. He WAS the slave. Later on after Russell died, the drunkard, Joseph "Judge" Rutherford seized control of the WT and set it up to be an organizational body that would command every thought and belief of the JW's.The terms slave class, anointed class, heavenly class were coined and are supposed to represent the faithful and discreet slave class. However, of the roughly 9,000 living and documented anointed do not actually have any voice in the way the WT runs, teaches or preaches. The actual fds is a group of nine anointed elders (all men) who are called the governing body of Jehovah's witnesses.

These nine men have in their power the ability to change yesterday's truth into today's lie by voting on doctrines and teachings. If six of the nine vote for Christmas to be considered Pagan, then Pagan it is. 2/3 majority makes or breaks any doctrine or perceived truth held by Jehovah's Witnesses.The people being misled by these nine blind guides are in serious jeopardy. Their very lives are in the hands of monsters that teach what are the expressions of demons and deny most of them the chance at salvation. I pray for them because they were once my brothers and sisters in faith. Please say a prayer with me now for them and indeed all blinded by Satan to find the Light of Precious Jesus.

Monday, December 15, 2008

Since leaving Jehovah's Witnesses I have been continuing my door to door ministry with a slight twist. I am warning people about jw's and other high control cults. I leave stickers on WT literature I find at Laundromats and doctor offices. The stickers are labeled WARNING! This literature is from a secretive, dangerous cult. Since there are many Spanish speakers in this rural community I live in I have them printed up in Spanish too for their benefit.

This afternoon around 2 PM I was out looking for people when a lady came up to me and told me to get off her street. She said she knows me from prior visits and she knows all about us jw's and that if I knew what was good for me I would leave. I smiled at her and she got really upset with me for that. She was about to go off on me when I asked her if she knew that I had left the Watchtower Cult.

She froze. She smiled and said that we needed to talk. We sat on her porch and she asked about what I am doing. When I showed her my stickers and brochures on cults and false jw doctrine she cried. She said that she had said prayers and asked God all weekend to send people to warn people about this evil cult.

She had been a victim of physical abuse by her elder husband and had fled him and the religion years before. She had no idea how to get the word out, so I told her to go to her library and access the internet and look up a site that gives ideas on how to deal effectively with cults.

I felt good. I am effecting positive change in my community and here online I am spreading the Good News, who is in fact Jesus Christ. I came home and I prayed from about 4 pm until around 7. That is the longest I have ever prayed. I cannot explain the joy and love I felt being in Jesus' presence. I felt like I would literally drown in love. I begged him to take His hand off me to spare my life.After over 40 years in the Watchtower I never prayed. Not like this. I am finally free of this cult and now I will free other trapped souls in Jesus precious Name!

JW's & The Blood Issue, GREED or Faith?

It's sad how jw's cherry pick a few scriptures to support their lies. When read IN CONTEXT, the scriptures in Acts are talking about the drinking of animal blood and the eating of it in strangled animals in conjunction with pagan idolatry. Nothing more.

The Old Testament or Hebrew scriptures make it plain that eating blood is not acceptable. However in the case of an emergency, when King Saul's men were famished and exhausted they did not properly bleed the animals they slaughtered. They did indeed eat blood with the meat. Did Jehovah rain down sulfur and fire from heaven or Antimatter radiation like one of their governing body says He may have used?

No, these sinners were forgiven. And that was back when the Old Testament and so-called ANGRY God was running the show.

Now, today we have Christ in charge and He told of forgiveness and wanting mercy instead of sacrifice. How did He manage that? By giving us all a figurative blood transfusion. We live by drinking HIS Blood.

Regarding the use of fragmented blood. They are being hypocritical. Blood is blood. They say we are stealing God's property when we misuse blood. OK let's say this is true for the sake of this discussion. Stealing is a sin. So if blood is a car and the components of the car are blood fragments how do you answer this?

If stealing a car is wrong, is stealing that car's wheels, carburetor, and windows ok? By their governing body's reasoning it is.

They capitulated to the idea of being sued by surviving family members every time one of their people dies following their doctrines by saying fragments are ok. When does Almighty God capitulate to anyone or anything? Should not His so-called organization on earth reflect His personality? Jesus did so and we all know that Christians are supposed to reflect Christ.

No, there is nothing else at work here but greed. Jesus would never allow one of His commands to be ignored. He does not fear losing the revenue from a multi-billion dollar publishing and real estate empire. But the Witnesses do. Their leadership fears nothing more than losing their precious Almighty Dollars. They are willing to say it's ok to accept blood fragments even when they believe it is wrong. If they truly believe the blood issue to be scriptural they would not give in even one inch. They would stand firm and allow Jehovah's Spirit to work in their favor. But they don't. They hide behind their legal department and avoid lawsuits in order to save their precious money.

I pray fervently everyday that the members of this cult have their eyes opened. Jesus can open their eyes to this hypocrisy and He will if they only ask. I encourage all Christians to pray for these lost and blind souls to find Jesus and the freedom that comes with serving Him. His yoke is light and easy to bear, unlike the legalistic and heavy load the watchtower places on the shoulders of their adherents.

Friday, December 12, 2008

Circuit Overseer Visit Is So Important

It is very important for some and not at all important to others. This man comes a couple of times a year to each congregation and does indeed whip the elders into whipping the rank and file jw's. It is a time for baptized brothers to suck up to him in order to qualify for "privileges", while other rank and file congregants "go over the heads of the elders" to voice and get his view on a problem they are having with the body of elders.

These men are venerated as demigods and wield a dangerous amount of power. An example, back in 1969 our family was paid a visit by the circuit overseer and we received him cordially into our home. He was telling my folks how important it was to go out in field service because in a few short years, Armageddon would be upon us and they did not want to die then because they missed that one door and opportunity to preach.

My folks were very much enthralled at the way he described the end of days coming in such a short amount of time. When my dad asked how soon he said that he spoke with the governing body before leaving for that particular visit and he said that we could be assured that my kid sister would not even start school before the end came.

She was about two years old at that time. She did indeed start and finish her schooling, raised two kids who are now in their early twenties, and she has a 3 year old grandson who will probably see his great grandkids finish their schooling on the moon before anything the jw's say ever comes true.

This man was a liar and deliberately misled my family and indeed hundreds and hundreds of other families with his falsehoods. The power these men are allowed to have is criminal. They feel like they can say or do anything they please. Some of them treat people kindly and lie thru their teeth, while others are just rude and hateful while they lie to everyone.

An example would be a CO named Mega. That short, baldy-headed little cockroach had the nerve to insult people in the kingdom hall. He once told a slightly overweight elder that he better lose twenty pounds or he would never give another talk at an assembly. Jehovah hates gluttons.

At one circuit assembly in Yuba City, CA a youngster was walking from his seat to the bathroom it looked like. He happened to be seen by Mega who felt distracted. He stopped his discourse and stared at the boy who had his back to him and said, "MODALES" which translates to English as, "MANNERS". The child's parents were very embarrassed and left the assembly a few moments after that ridiculous display of authority. I heard they never returned to the meetings as they were not even baptized jw's. Not sure if that part is true, but it is what I heard.

The visit from the CO tends to be glorified and really stresses out the elders who invariably get scolded for any inactive or irregular publishers, too many disfellowshippings, or not enough of them. This man is made out to be an apostle with special inside information for the rank and file, so, much anticipation is really driving the spike in attendance during his visit. Once he is gone, the inactive go back to inactivity, the irregulars become regular for a week or two, and then they revert back to their usual lack of interest and activity because the elders slip back into their lardass complacency.

The CO is nothing more than a corporate sales manager who comes by to inspect the daily sales reports of local watchtower stores.

Alcyone The Throne Of Jehovah Followup

THE WATCHTOWER stated, "it would be unwise for us to try to fix God's throne as being at a particular spot in the universe." (November 15, page 703) So apparently that was a reason to repudiate the previous teaching of Judge Rutherford that Jehovah was actually located on that star.

They used that star in conjunction with the Great Pyramid to arrive at the the 1914 year of Christ's presence. Amazing, and this is what Jesus came and found to be the true religion?

Tuesday, December 9, 2008

Jehovah Packed His Things And Moved In 1953?

Yes, the Watchtower Society used to actively teach its disciples that Jehovah God resided in the center of the universe on the star called Alcyone in the Pleiades star cluster. They began teaching this in 1881 when the Great Pyramid pointed it out to them. Then they dropped this teaching in 1953. Was it because Jehovah packed up His stuff and moved His throne to Brooklyn Bethel?



Don't believe me? Here is a scan of one of their publications stating the exact location of Jehovah.


I will be researching why they quit believing this and report back when I hear something concrete that I can prove with facts.

Sunday, December 7, 2008

What does the Watchtower Tell Its Followers About Going To University/College?

Something that I find to be very irritating is the way some JWs lie about what the Watchtower actually teaches about young JWs going after a college education. On different forums the question about whether or not the society actually discourages its youth to attend college or not. Many JWs are either out of ignorance or outright deception lie to the person asking the question by lying and stating that there are no set rules or ideals the society hands down about the topic of kids going to college. And of course, those of us who know the truth will answer honestly and provide proof from the watchtower's own literature how the idea of further education is indeed discouraged.

It is important to read the literature and listen to their public discourses very carefully in order to catch the subtle use of mind control being used to manipulate the thoughts of those taking in the information. The society may write in a small disclaimer saying they are not the master's of one's faith and one must make up their own mind about a college education, BUT...

BUT, in the end they do not give you a balanced view of the outcome. They will say that you will make more money with a degree in your hands, but will money get you through the tribulation? Or they point out that while going to college might be good, it is like risking your very soul if you do go. They always focus on the negative and subliminally leave a person with the idea that college is one of Satan's snares and if they hide under the organizational skirts of the motherly watchtower society all will be right in the world.

Some JWs have gone to college, but it is not something their governing body really sanctions. They tell people that going to college can be like a person with a brain tumor trying to kill themselves to end their suffering. They take a rifle, put the barrel into their mouth, pull the trigger and the bullet perfectly excises the tumor and the person survives to go on and enjoy a happy and normal life afterward.

They say, sure some JWs may SURVIVE college, but is it worth the risk?

Don't believe me? Listen to Brother Lösch of their own governing body discourage young people using that exact example here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciZlsMWkFiU

Below is an article in a recent Watchtower article that plants the idea of going to college in the middle of temptations like smoking, doing drugs, and engaging in activities that might lead one to become violent or sexually immoral.


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What will be the “End Afterward”?

Young people are often exposed to temptations and pressures to experiment with things that seem popular. Here are some likely scenarios.

-Someone dares you to smoke a cigarette.

-A well-intentioned teacher urges you to pursue higher education at a university.

-You are invited to a party where alcohol and possibly drugs will be freely available.

-”Why don’t you post your profile on the Internet”? Someone suggests.

-A friend invites you to watch a movie that features violence or immorality.

If you are ever confronted with any of such situations, what will you do? Will you simply give in, or will you carefully consider what the “end afterward” could be? You would be wise to ask yourself: “Can a man rake together fire into his bosom and yet his very garments not be burned? Or can a man walk upon the coals and his feet themselves not be scorched.”---Proverbs 6:27, 28 (Watchtower September 1, 2008 Pg. 10)



Sources

A talk given at a Special Assembly in Monza, Italy on May 22, 2005 features Gerrit Lösch a member of Jehovah's Witnesses governing body (The Highest Leaders of the Watchtower Corporation)comparing attending college to shooting yourself in the head with a rifle.


Watchtower September 1, 2008 Pg. 10

Friday, December 5, 2008

The Watchtower's False Teachings About Christmas Exposed

My friend and brother in the Lord Joe over at http://www.ChristianWitnesses.com asked me to use some of the site's information about the origins of Christmas and create a video for all to see. I am posting it here and at youtube and myspace.

Isn't it about time the lies stop and the Joy and Love of Christ Jesus are allowed to shine in this dark world we live in?




video

Wednesday, December 3, 2008

Did Jehovah Lie To JWs For 81 Years?

I have been following the online posts of a young elder from Southern California for a about a month now. He hits the JW doctrines with hard-hitting but humorous punches. Here is one I just read. It deals with the "Generation" of Matthew 24:34.
Credit to Olin Moyles.
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Jehovah's Witnesses have changed their beliefs over the past 100 years several times because the governing body (AKA faithful and discreet slave) has provided new light on certain watchtower doctrines. For instance the Generation of Matthew 24:34.

They recently stopped believing this generation was one thing and went back to an old, obsolete teaching last taught in 1927. Since the governing body claims to be appointed by Jesus Christ Himself (WT 4/15/2001 page 29) and is in fact the only "channel" that God is using to guide mankind (Our Kingdom Ministry 9/2002 page 8), then why did Jehovah lie to Jehovah's Witnesses for 81 years and then go back to a previous teaching on "This Generation"?

Oh wait, it is impossible for God to lie! (Hebrews 6:18)So who was either tuned to the wrong "CHANNEL" and gave wrong information, or out and out lied to us for the past 81 years?Since the father of the lie is Satan, then perhaps it is not the Truthful Christ Jesus who appoints the governing body after all.

References

...the Governing Body is not appointed by any man but is appointed by Jesus Christ. WT 4/15/2001 page 29

Bear in mind that our heavenly Father has an appointed channel of communication, “the faithful and discreet slave.”Our Kingdom Ministry 9/2002 page 8

Olin Moyle is a Christian. One of Jehovah's Witnesses. An elder no less.

Thursday, November 27, 2008

Are Jehovah's Witnesses Qualified To Teach The Bible?

I have never in over forty years in the wt seen ANYONE brought into the organization with a Bible alone.

Never, ever, never, ever, never, ever, never, never.

I remember once last year I was working what amounts to seldom worked territory up near Three Rivers, CA. I went to a door with an older brother and the person who answered asked a similar question. Could he and his wife learn from us using only the Bible? He asked because he had been burned by organized religion and had faith only in the KJV.The brother said, "SURE!" and I looked at him like he was nuts.

LOL

He set a time to go back and placed a brochure with him and told him to read it and he would be back in 3-4 days to review it with him.When we got back to the car so we could drive off to the next ranch, I asked him if he would bring me back because I wanted to be able to teach with only the Bible. Know what that old bastard said? He told me that he was not coming back. He told me to come back on my own if I wanted to but that I better bring the Bible Teach book. He said the Bible alone was going to lead those poor folks into trinitarian teachings and that I could wiggle the book in after a couple of visits.

I have known other folks who got really freaked out when the person at the door refused the wt or other publication and asked for us to use only the Bible. Seems most JWs are totally unqualified to teach the Bible. Hell, I can even remember back in the 1980s having Bible Verse games where someone reads a text and we have to say the book, chapter and verse. I was ok at it, but most everyone else sucked bad at it. I usually came in 2nd and one older sister won like 99.9% of the time....

JWs IMHO are totally dependant on wt publications and would fail miserably to explain any verse from the Bible without being able to flip open a watchtower or other book they publish.....

A Prayer Request For All Of Jehovah's Witnesses

These people have been truly blinded by satan and his watchtower organization. I am asking everyone to please pray for these lost lambs of Christ and beg the Lord to open their eyes and hearts so they can accept and serve Him.
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Lord God, our Heavenly Father. We approach you in the name of your Son, Christ Jesus to beg that your Kingdom comes and is made to be fully powerful here on earth like it is in the heavens above us. We pray that you open the eyes of those in this world who are blind to Jesus. Especially Jehovah's Witnesses. These poor souls have been led astray by Satan and his watchtower organization. We pray you bring them to You and open their eyes. Show them the Light of precious Jesus and show them the Way to life everlasting. We beg forgiveness of our sins and errors and leave all things in your mighty hands, in Jesus' all powerful name. Amen.

Tuesday, November 25, 2008

JWs Destroying One Generation After Another

My mother in law is a regular pioneer. She has been one for almost twenty years now. I had the misfortune of being trapped into a conversation with her and a drunken, abusive pioneer/elder wannabe last night. They went on and on about how close we are to the end we can smell it now. She brought up how so many of the brothers & sisters are starting to pioneer now and are focusing all of their resources on the ministry. The kids especially are lining up in droves, choosing to pioneer instead of go to college.

I was nodding my head and trying to find a legitimate reason to dart off so I would avert my gag reflex from going into overdrive. All the while I was remembering how back in 1969 the society printed this in the May 22, 1969 Awake! on page 15:

" If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. Why not? Because all the evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. Of the generation that observed the beginning of the 'last days' in 1914, Jesus foretold:'This generation will by no means pass away until all these things occur.' Therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers."


Those are some powerful statements aren't they? Man, if I was a teen back in 69 I would have probably jumped to pioneer too. What a scary and awesome time to live in! How old are these people who were never to grow old in this present system of things? They are about 60 years old now!

Never grow old in this system...INDEED!


I also remember how back in the early to mid 1970's the Watchtower was preaching annhilatition, armageddon, and impending doom to arrive in 1975, and how many sold their homes, and other possessions in order to support their full-time preaching of the end of the world. The end never came and many of the people who sold all of their things were ruined financially.

Don't get me wrong, I feel that a person should give their all to Christ's Kingdom. However, to do so because an organization that is selling books puts unfair demands on people is wrong in my opinion. But, that is the story of the Watchtower then isn't it. Hasn't this group's greed pushed them to scare and bully people into believing their doom and gloom, "The End Is So Close We Can Smell It" routine for over 100 years?

It really indicates to me how they are not working in concert with God or His Holy Spirit. They MUST use nihilism to terrorize their adherents in order to get them out pushing their lies and more importantly, their literature. Nothing is more important than bringing money to lay at the altar of the governing body.

My mother in law brings in a lot of "Contributions", which attests to her diligence in the field service. She has not brought in a single soul to their so-called truth in over 12 years. Which in actuality is a good thing, but really...where is the fruit of her labors? Oh yes, the contributions. The cost of this fruit is too high in my opinion. She neglects her husband (my wifes dad) by either leaving him home alone or by calling him a Pharisee because he cannot attend meetings anymore. Even right after his most recent heart attack she took off to go preach.

Why? Because she said it is because needs to make her "Hours" and because "Armageddon is almost here!!!!". Actually, I think it is because she loves to fight with people too. She told me that she loves nothing more than to argue with people at their doors and have them call her an idiot, so she can get good and mad. No wonder the JWs in this world are so depressed, scared, and full of hate. They are being motivated by fear instead of Love For Their Neighbor when they go out to preach.

Today we have another generation of young people that is being denied an education, the ability to interact socially, and to get close to Christ Jesus because of being raised by blind parents to serve the Watchtower cult. Another generation is being destroyed by false teachings and greed. I think it is important that they be prayed for and that Jesus take hold of their futures. Don't they deserve a chance to hear from Jesus and make up their own minds about how they will live their lives?

I made a video about the kids from the 60s & 70s who are now being discarded by the wt because they are getting old. It is linked here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrH8kpexihk or you can find it in my video section above on the right hand panel. It is titled, "Serve Jehovah In Your Youth" Check it out when you have a few minutes.

Saturday, November 22, 2008

Rutherford Ties Jehovah's Witnesses With NWO Illuminati

I have been reading a lot in respect to the JWs New Order and the New World Order that President Bush Sr. talked about. It seems to me like both are pointing to a global extermination of the vast majority of humanity and an elite group will survive and make earth a paradise.

David Icke is the speaker in this video. It is a couple of hours long, so watch it when you can spend some time at it.

http://www.thebigagenda.com/channel.php?id=7&video=69&type=documentary

Thursday, November 20, 2008

No More Pearls Before Swine

I have been engaging JWs in online debates at Yahoo Answers for a few months now. Originally I was seeking their help. Help to dispel my deepest and most dreadful doubts about this organization called Watchtower. Help to make my life feel like it was not completely wasted in service to a bunch of greedy sons of bitches sitting on God's throne in Brooklyn, NY. I was rebuffed as an apostate and shunned when not insulted and made to feel one inch tall by my supposed brothers in the faith.

I have been pretty angry over the way things have gone for me in respect to the watchtower. My folks and indeed my entire family have been shit upon from the beginning. My folks bless their hearts felt like they had no where else to go, so we remained locked into the counter productive routine of bringing people into the organization without really believing it was the truth.

I have decided to leave the tower of confusion and hate and go after Jesus Christ. I have been asking JWs questions online to make them think. What I get back is hate, anger, and sarcasm. There is no hope for people who are brainwashed. They cannot be made to think for themselves. I understand, because I was once like that. What I will do now as far as Yahoo Answers goes is respond to questions by people seeking the truth. I may get put down or voted off, but I will do my part to shed light on this dark tower and its evil ways. I will no longer throw pearls to the online watchtower swine. I will pray for them and help those who want help. It is all I can do. And in all actuality, isn't prayer in Jesus name the very best anyone can offer?

An Open Letter To Jehovah's Witnesses

I did not write this letter. I do feel it is worth sharing with the world because it contains the heartfelt description of the Wathtower from the point of view of a JW.

AN OPEN LETTER TO JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

You may not remember, but I know you very well. I met you a long time ago when you came to my house with your smiling faces, your neat clothes, and your soft voices and a Bible tucked neatly under your arm. You told me many beautiful stories of a "paradise earth," and a "righteous new system" which would be established shortly. You beguiled me; I listened and I let you teach me your form of Christ-dignity.

I loved you, I devoted most of my life to you, I was loyal and obedient, never realizing that one day I would come to disagree with everything you had to say. When I first met you and learned of the "paradise," little did I know that in order to get to that paradise, I would have to walk over the dead bodies of beloved family, cherished friends, and casual acquaintances, because they didn't want to be Jehovah's Witnesses. With your soft, sweet voices, and gentle manner, you convinced me that everything and everyone who did not agree with you was "evil." I came to believe that other churches were bad and of the devil, and so were their members. I became convinced that all the governments were wicked, including my own, and that I was not to support the country in which I lived. I believed you; I loved you, trusted you, and served you and never suspected that you were capable of deceiving me.

I loved you so much that I raised my precious children as Jehovah's Witnesses. I taught them that you were trustworthy and true followers of God and Jesus. I trained them to believe your every word. How could I have known that in the future you would steal my own flesh and blood from my arms and prevent them from seeing me because I would come to disagree with you? I never noticed the fangs of oppression and tyranny that lurked behind those gentle smiles. I never knew that I would be expected to hand over my mind, soul, and spirit to you, and if I were to ever want them back, you would hold my children as hostages and no amount of begging and tears would release them from your grip because they had been raised to look at you as being God, rather than mere men.

When I came to you, I was young and pretty and impressionable, looking for a relationship with God, my Creator. But through slick words and empty speeches you convinced me that I was not really a child of God, that my duty was to the organization-that THEY would tell me what to do and how to think. Through years of domination and manipulation I began to accept the meager food that was being offered to me, and became willing to accept it as the true "spiritual" food from the Master, while all the time feeling the gnawing at my body. Finally, I discovered that I had been robbed of my joy, my love, my compassion, and my mercy, and it was replaced with legalistic doctrinal formula which provided me with fear, guilt, and anxiety to fill my hunger. When I said, "I want more than this," you slapped me with your soft little hand, which had now turned into an iron fist of oppression. Yes, you fooled me all along; your deception was because you had been fooled too, a long time ago, by others who had taken you captive to their dictatorial reign of terror. You convinced me that the words of men were the words of God because you really thought it was true. I believed you because you were gentle, soft spoken, and carried the Bible tucked under your arm.

You told me that you had "freedom" and it was only later, when I tried to escape your brand of "freedom" that I discovered that the iron bars of the gate had been shut and I was at your mercy because, by this time, you had already gained control of my mind and my emotions. I cried and begged you to please let me go, and you said, with your firm, roaring voice, "not until I have stripped you naked" and you did. You stripped me of my dignity, my self-respect, my honor, and my FAMILY! You told all my family and friends that I was demonic, evil, an apostate, a spiritual fornicator, and good for nothing but total destruction by your angry God whom you had tried to pass off as a God of "love." They believed you, and they still believe you, because their eyes are blinded by the promise of "paradise" and they cannot "see" the Hell that surrounds them. The ever illusive "paradise" is held out to the gullible like a carrot in front of the nose of a rabbit, and causes them to sacrifice their family, friends, careers, education, hopes and dreams on the altar of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

Now I'm older, now I'm wiser, but now it is too late- life is fast slipping away. Through my tears, I cry out for my beautiful daughter and grandchildren, but you grip them tighter and tighter and tell them that YOU will be their "mother." And so you are, and so you are! I begged to recapture my honor and my dignity, but you laughed with your bright, shining teeth, and said, "No way, you're on your own." Somehow those soft, pretty words weren't soft and pretty anymore, but words of slander, abuse, hatred, and hostility- and you said them in such a way that others would think that you were righteous and I was evil. You lied about me, but no one will believe you LIED because they trust you-that's because you are soft spoken, gentle, and carry a Bible tucked neatly under your arm.

Gaila Noble

Monday, November 17, 2008

Physical Abuse By Jehovah's Witnesses At Theocratic Meetings

I got my tail kicked in a lot as a kid. But I was a bad kid most of the time so I can't point fingers at my folks. They did the best they could with what they knew and so I will say that I was not abused. When I was growing up in the 1970s in the cancer known as the watchtower, I saw LOTS of kids get abused. Not just swatted or whupped. I mean angry and hateful abuse. Little kids being dragged to the back of the hall screaming for mercy and having their faces smashed and breathing stifled under the quieting hand of their mother.

I saw police come to the hall once, because a kid was being a kid and his dad, to avoid disrupting the meeting dragged him outside. We had these amber colored, semi opaque windows on the side of the hall where we saw the dance of discipline being carried out between a son and his father's belt. The wt conductor actually lost his train of thought and paused for a while in shock at the severity of the beating. The cops were called by a neighbor. Sonofabitch got arrested too, because the cops saw him wailing the crap out of the poor kid. How old was this kid who got whipped so badly? About 2 years old.....

At the same hall one sister was known for her brutality. she didn't have a family, she had a LITTER of kids. This oldbitch sat in the middle of her kids up near the front of the hall always. If they got out of lline she would slap them across the face or their laps with a skinny-belt. Whap-Pow! Once I cracked up after she hit one of them and she turned around and glared at me, then she shook that damned belt at me.....My shi* ran cold.

Yet another time at the bookstudy, this sister had a bunch of kids and they lived in a tiny apartment. They also had a large dog she had chained to the bathroom doorknob. I think it was a German shepard. Well, about halfway thru the study of "Then is finished the Mystery Of God" her littlest girl got up and started dancing and slapping the books out of our hands. I started to laugh out loud and eventually the brother asked the sister to please do somethign about her daughter. Well, she got up and took her to the bathroom and wailed the livingshit outta her. We could here the thuds from how she was hitting her on the back with a closed fist. Then she took the dog''s chain and strapped the girl down to her chair with it. Then the dog went around the room licking everybody's face and crotch.

These are just a couple that I saw back in the 1970s from my own, kids-eye-view. What I got by being kicked in the tail and whipped with a belt and an electrical cord was nothing compared to these things that happened during theocratic meetings.

See, the society stressed the importance of the meetings. Nothing could be allowed to interrupt a meeting. Once a brother told my dad that if a hand grenade was tossed through a window, that a brother should jump on it and save everyone. Then the meeting should go on uninterrupted. That is psychotic to me. But the mentality continues to this day. Just last summer an elderly lady collapsed at the district assembly. The talker continued with his droning as paramedits treated
her for a heart attack. No announcement was made about her condition, not even a prayer for her was made...

Sunday, November 16, 2008

The Way?

In all my years I have never heard that the WTs has ever referred itself to "The Way" like 1st century disciples refered to their belief system as "The Way". The Bible also refers to 1st century disciples as Christians. I called my mom back in Albuquerque and she told me she never has heard it either. She did remind me of how some refer to brothers as "The Friends" and how the society calls the organization the "Truth". But does not recall any reference to "The Way".

Claiming Apostolic succession and all, I would assume that the JW would use a term used by the apostles. I wonder why they do not. Could it be because The Lord Jesus is denying them the name?

Saturday, November 15, 2008

July 1, 2008 WT Lies About The Divine Name

More lies from the Watchtower. This time they are claiming that Jesus prayed using the Divine Name (YHWH). an elder I know who is doubting the WT has researched it and found NO BIBLICAL PROOF of this claim. Not in the NWT, Not in the Emphatic Diaglott, and not in the Kingdom Interlinear.

The WT knows no bounds. Here is the scam of page 30 for you to see for yourself.

Monday, November 10, 2008

JWs Stumbling People With Their Online Misbehavior

I was offered additional privleges at my hall and when I declined, apparently something in my way of declining prompted a visit from the presiding and service overseers. We went over the typical chit chat and the p.o. actually told me that Jesus is a S.O.B.

Meaning that his gardener Jesus (HaySoos)was lazy and overcharges him. It was on the hinge of blasphemy I thought, but oh well. Anyway, we got to talking and I explained to them the crap that the WTS has been doing and how I can no longer in good faith follow along. I also mentioned that a tiny part of the reason was how when I approched other JWs online with the issues I had I was met with hateful and very ugly comments. Highly unchristian responses were the norm rather than the exception.

Well the elders were not very convinced by my claims, so I took them online and showed them the questions I posted and the crap the so-called JWs were spewing from their asses. They were both shocked but the service overseer said nothing. The p.o. was very vocal and said these comments were a stumbling block to not only me but to anyone who might read them. Before I closed my browser he aske me to email him the links to the evil comments.

He mentioned wanting to run some counsel about internet posts in an upcoming Local Needs Talk. But from what I gather, those are pretty much scripted at Broolyn and have more to do with kicking the publishers until they go to the doors more and more. I thought his comments were interesting, though and wanted to share them here. What do you think? Do JWs do more harm than good to the organiation by going online and venting their hate for questions?

Tuesday, November 4, 2008

Totalitarian watchtower Society FORCES Millions To Not Vote.

It never ceases to amaze me how the WT and its fanatical members keep on denying that there is not any pressure from the organization to do this or that or not do this or that. Below is part of a story that tells us how the WT FORCES people like the Williams sisters to not vote even theough they support Obama.

Tennis star SERENA WILLIAMS is rooting for BARACK OBAMA to become America's next president, even though her religion forbids her from voting.
Williams and her sister Venus are among several million Jehovah's Witnesses in the U.S. who are forced to remain politically neutral and restricted from taking part in elections.

Contact Music News
http://www.contactmusic.com/news.nsf/article/williams%20cant%20vote%20-%20but%20hopes%20obama%20wins_1085641

Jehovah's Witness Pioneers In Foot Fetish Video

I heard a rumor and checked it out. Apparently a foot fetish video producer got two pioneer sisters to pose their feet in a foot fetish video for the online amusement of foot fetishists. I was able to locate the video and thought about posting the link to the site, but you know it has some graphic stuff on it, so I decided not to. However here is some data on it (cut and Pasted exactly as it appears on the site.) :

Jehova Witness Sole Show
Meet this two half italian half south american cousin duo with size 8's. When they knocked on my door the first thing I asked them was if they wanted to model their feet because I had a foot fetish. Believe it or not they said of course but of course they found it weird! Check out their awsome soft white soles.

$2.99 USD
Length: 2 minutes

Size: 95 MB
Format: WMV
Category: SOLES
Added: 08/29/08 08:11:20 PM

I know it is impossible to confirm their membership as Jehovah's Witnesses, but it seems pretty convincing with the name Jehova Witness Sole Show as the title.

Honest, you can't make this stuff up!

Is it ok now for sisters to do this sort of thing?

Jehovah's Witnesses Predicted Armageddon's Start In The 20th Century

Jehovah's Witnesses Predicted Armageddon's Start In The 20th Century? Yea they did.
Again in my nightly research I read an interesting prophesy in an old Watchtower book my dad had way back in 1971. The title of the book is "The Nations Shall Know That I Am Jehovah. How?"
It states plain as day on page 216 paragraph 9 that:"Shortly, within our twentieth century, the "battle in the day of Jehovah" will begin against the modern antitype of Jerusalem, Christendom."

I double checked and I was right, this book is conveniently excluded from the WT CD-ROM, so what I did was scan the page and put it online to share it with the world.



I think this is significant because the WT always says that they never pointed to 1975 as the year the end would come. This indicates that in 1971 they were looking into the short future for the end to come. To be sure they covered their ass, they said in the 20th century. No wonder they left this book off the CD ROM!

What do you think of this discovery I have made about another false prophecy made by the Visible Organization of God?

In Good Fun

The latest thing out of Brooklyn, NY this Fashion Season is here at last!

Be the first at your hall to get them!
When the Memorial Season arrives, show your loyalty to the organization!
Walk the corridors at the District Convention in "True" style!
Wear them out in field service so all will know you are one of Jehovah's Witnesses!

Watchtower Fashion Blinders!

Car-Group discount available...See your local coordinator of the body of elders for details today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfol9ZZUKsI

Aren't they the COOLEST?

Sunday, November 2, 2008

The Closed Minds Of JWs

Most JWs believe things but have no rational way of expressing themselves. Many of them are on anti-depressant medications, or are very stressed out because of the pressures to conform to the hive-mind of their organization.

Others may actually be having doubts about their religious beliefs and instead of giving a calm response and reasoning from the scriptures as the Apostle told us to do, they become agitated and may resort to name-calling and telling people off. It is sad, but one of their publications foretold this about them.

"A closed mind may betray a lack of interest in the subject or a reluctance to look into the matter. In fact, it could even be a sign of uncertainty or doubt. For example, if we are unable to defend our religious views, we may find ourselves lashing out against those who challenge our beliefs, not with logical arguments, but with slurs and innuendos. This smacks of prejudice and of a closed mind." (AWAKE 11/22/1984 page 4)

Saturday, November 1, 2008

Mind Control Techniques Of The Watchtower / Jehovah's Witnesses

This video shows how to start your own cult. I was surprised how many of the mind control techniques are used by the Jehovah's Witnesses. If you are a JW and give it an honest look, I think you will agree how much mind control goes with being a JW. Love Bombing, Separation from family, Keep Busy, Singing, Focus on the leader/plan, etc.... Scary Stuff to this fat old cowboy!
video

Friday, October 31, 2008

Why JWs Are So Sensitive About Their Beliefs

I have been around Jehovah's Witnesses over 40 years now and I was taught to answer all questions to the best of my ability with respect and honesty. If I did not have an answer I was taught to research and find one. When I started to find answers that prove the watchtower organization to be wrongly positioned as God's organization I still answer truthfully even if the answer makes the society look bad. What I see going on in online forums is a lot of angry and scared people trying to defend something out of base instinct. Jesus said we would know His disciples by their fruits. Many and not all mind you but many of the JWs tend to demonstrate more fruitage of the flesh than of the Spirit with their fits of anger, arrogant and dismissive attitude and lack of respect for the feelings and faith of others.

Much of what I see is when one of their doctrines cannot be supported with biblical evidence or when a flip flop of doctrine takes place we must accept the canned and scripted answer that Brooklyn poops out. And if we do not accept the word of sinful men over what is in the Word of God, we are apostates or otherwise unworthy of a truthful answer. Well, if I am an apostate I can say that I am in good company. Jesus was also condemned as an apostate by the hypocritical leaders of the then so-called chosen people of God. I would rather base my faith on what is in the Bible than what is in a bi-monthly magazine any day of the week.

The Bible never changes and neither does JHWH, The Rock. The watchtower changes when a few votes are cast by 9 sinful and senile old men in a board- room in Brooklyn New York

Wednesday, October 29, 2008

Is The Hubristic Pride Jehovah's Witnesses Display A Mark Of Insecurity In Their Beliefs?

I posted the following at yahoo answers. It is amazing how some of the JWs responded.

Over the years I have noticed a lot of arrogant and puffed-up JWs go on the attack when confronted with questions they cannot answer. A study I was looking at indicates that some of them may be suffering from an inferiority complex.What is your take on this?

Is The Hubristic Pride Jehovah's Witnesses Display A Mark Of Insecurity In Their Beliefs?

Reference to the study at Live Science:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081028/sc_livescience/grouppriderootedininsecurity

Here is the star post from an active JW that goes by the moniker "Desert Rose".

I have notice that you are in all the meeting ...but behind you criticize them....in front of them you are a good JW...but behind you attack them....Why people in this forum will pay attention to someone that acts as an hypocrite??Why you are not enough brave to leave them if you think they are false...that make you an hypocrite....Stand up and leave the KH of Jehovah ´s witnesses...be a man for once in your life..not a coward....people are seeing that you are insecure of your manhoodCANDI: I don´t go to churchs to make believe I am agree with them and behind criticize them....cowards do that...."

you email me: "Hi Rosie, to answer you honestly, I have to say that I attend meetings and when I have a question or a problem with one of the doctrines that sound unbiblical to me I approach the elders, hon.

"Like what?' that is false this planet will be ruled by Jesus Christ and transformed in a paradise?? and humans will inherit the earth?? that is false...right? prove it is unbiblical...if that is false prove me with the bible and what is the true if that is false

Source(s):
I am a Civil engineer professional working on my masters degree in Structural design

_______________________________________________________________

Amazing response wouldn't you agree?

Friday, October 24, 2008

Why Can't JW's Pledge Allegiance To The USA When Their Leaders Do?

Jehovah's Witnesses are instructed by their leaders to never salute a flag, pledge allegiance to, or ever to sing the national anthem of any nation because this activity is idolotry.

QUOTE


"There are other challenges besides persecution that call for courage on our part. For some, talking to strangers about the good news is a challenge. The courage of some schoolchildren is tested when they are called upon to recite a pledge of allegiance to the country or to the flag. Since such a pledge is virtually a religious expression, Christian children have boldly resolved to act in a way that pleases God, and their fine record has been heartwarming" (Watchtower of 3/1/2003 page 9 paragraph 5)
End of quote.

This has been going on for decades and I doubt that any JW would dispute my source. My question has to do with why the presidents of the Watchtower Organization are allowed to do this:

Further, I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of The United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservations, or purpose of evasion; so help me God.

So, Why Can't Jehovah's Witnesses Pledge Allegiance To Any Nation When Their Leaders Do?

Reference Sources

Watchtower Documents web page
http://www.watchtowerdocuments.com/downloads/2008_Jehovahs_Witnesses_and_National_Oaths_of_Allegiance.pdf

WT 9/15/2002 Pages 21-22

Watchtower of 3/1/2003 page 9 paragraph 5

Scan of WT Pres. Nathan Knorr's signature swearing allegiance to the United States of America.
http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/Watchtower_Facts/oathknorr.jpg

List of other WT presidents who also pledged allegiance to the USA in stark disregard for watchtower policy against idolotrous activities:

Application for United States passport #B1494270 issued to Nathan Homer Knorr on May 21, 1971, at the New York Passport Agency (approved May 19, 1971)

Application for United States passport by Charles Taze Russell issued March 7, 1910, (Passport Application Number 21454)

Application for United States passport by Joseph Franklyn Rutherford issued April 1, 1922, (Passport Application Number 136794)

Application for United States passport #733078 issued to Milton George Henschel approved September 22, 1952

Thursday, October 23, 2008

Why Not Admit To Being Part Of The WT?

When out in door to door service I always identified myself proudly as one of Jehovah's Witnesses when asked what church I was with or if I was associated with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. God hates a liar and a coward.
So I was on a blog a minute ago and read how I was wrong to be doing that! Imagine, I was baptized in 1981 and since then I have been wrong when I tell people the truth when asked my affiliation.
Here is a scan of the February 1989 Our Kingdom Ministry telling us to avoid telling that we are part of Jah's visible organization:











Source: ...publishers do well to avoid representing themselves as agents or representatives of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc., or any other corporation used by “the faithful and discreet slave” to advance Kingdom interests (February 1989 Our Kingdom Ministry page 3).


Were you aware of this? I know I was surprised to read that.

Tuesday, October 21, 2008

Jehovah's Witness Elders Accused Again of Failing To Report Pedophile!!

Lori Coolican , Canwest News Service

Published: Monday, October 20, 2008

SASKATOON - Two women who were sexually abused in their adolescence by a trusted older relative say elders of the small-town Jehovah's Witness church in which they were raised did not report the situation to police after he admitted touching them inappropriately during the late 1980s and early 1990s.

"We were left to endure years of guilt and shame," one of the women wrote in a victim-impact statement read aloud by Crown prosecutor Krista Zerr during the man's sentencing hearing in Saskatoon Court of Queen's Bench on Monday.

"I felt like damaged goods."

Due to a publication ban on information that could identify the victims, the convicted man's name cannot be published. He pleaded guilty to two counts of sexual assault earlier this year, on what was supposed to be the first day of his trial. In exchange, the Crown dropped charges of sexual interference and sexual touching, as well as a charge related to a male complainant.

Both victims, now ages 31 and 32, testified against the man at an earlier preliminary hearing. They did not attend court Monday. Justice Neil Gabrielson reserved his decision on the man's sentence until Nov. 21.

The two women grew up in a town of about 500 people, east of Saskatoon, and were not allowed to associate with anyone outside their religion, except during school hours, court heard. They frequently spent time at the home of the older relative and his wife, who were church members in their early 20s at the time.

"We trusted them, as Witness families would," the victims' father told the preliminary hearing, according to Zerr. "We assumed (the girls) were in a safe environment."

During one such visit, the man's wife suggested the girls allow him to give them "oil massages," Zerr said. One of the victims, who was 13 or 14 years old at the time, told court the massage involved lying face-down on the couple's bed with the door closed, naked from the waist up. It ended with him fondling her breasts repeatedly.

Her sister testified the man touched her breasts and vagina on several occasions when she was at the couple's home, starting when she was 12 years old.

The girls were given vodka to drink on some of their visits, and were invited more than once to try on pieces of lingerie belonging to the man's wife, who sold it as a source of income, court heard.

After telling each other about the abuse, the two sisters informed their parents. Their father confronted the man, who did not confirm or deny what had happened, and the matter was subsequently reported to church elders, Zerr said.

"There was no report to the police at that time."

Instead, the man received a lecture from the elders, and many in the community rallied around him because he regularly attended church meetings - while the girls were "treated like troublemakers" and encouraged to let the whole thing go, one of the victims wrote.

Their father and their abuser later became "dear friends, and would go for coffee daily," a situation which continues to this day, she added.

"We were trash-talked and slandered throughout the community . . . the religion abandoned us."

The Crown is seeking a jail sentence of two years less a day - which means the man will likely avoid a penitentiary term - while defence lawyer John Will argued Monday for a conditional sentence to be served at home.

Will gave the court several character references in his client's favour, signed by fellow church members and others, including the town's mayor.

Aside from "some serious mistakes many years ago," the man has led an "exemplary" life, Will said.

Saskatoon StarPhoenix 2008

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=c9d1bb57-3db6-4c5d-81d1-6f70fd9f1b4d
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Mister Lorenzo here to say that this sort of activity is not only criminal but immoral. How can an organization that breaks so many civil and moral laws and still say it is God's Theocratic Organization? Something must be done to stop the abuse of our children by these monsters.

Monday, October 20, 2008

The Watchtower Society Is The Regimental Flag Of Jehovah's Witnesses


In my research of the Watchtower Society, I found a rather strange statement in the Watchtower magazine. Basically it says that JWs need to pay UNRESERVED LOYALTY to the Watchtower Society. It goes on to say that a soldier always follows his regimental flag and that the Watchtower Society is indeed their flag.



From my experience as a JW I know that the indoctrination process continues to this day that it is vital to PAY UNRESERVED LOYALTY to the Watchtower Organization. Today I understand that saluting a flag is considered to be IDOLOTRY by Jehovah's Witnesses. The watchtower is itself an idol and part of the worship of the Greek Goddess Artemis of Ephesus.


Is God Really Going To Destroy Everyone But Jehovah's Witnesses?

There are almost 7 billion people on Earth and of that number there are about 7 Million Jehovah's Witnesses. So, if Armageddon came today, approximately 1/1000th of the population would survive according to what the Jehovah's Witnesses teach. That would mean that of the 7 billion living souls alive right this second, 6,993,000,000 would be executed by the loving and organized God of the Watchtower Organization.When Satan fell he dragged down with him 1/3 of the stars or angelic sons of God (Revelation 12:3-4). When God made men He made us a "...little lower than the angels." (Hebrews 2:6-7) Why then is (according to the Watchtower), Satan able to lead astray .333 of the angels but .9999999999 of Gods earthly children? If we are only a little less than the angels wouldn't it seem more logical that a little more than 1/3 of us would be destroyed at Armageddon? Perhaps even as many as HALF of us?I am really questioning this teaching of their faithful and discreet slave class. Do you think God would really butcher nearly 7 billion people and save only the Jehovah's Witnesses?

I don't. So once again I am led to question the validity of anything the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses says.

Reference

Watchtower 9/1/1989 Pg 19 Paragraph 7:
Only Jehovah’s Witnesses, those of the anointed remnant and the “great crowd,” as a united organization under the protection of the Supreme Organizer, have any Scriptural hope of surviving the impending end of this doomed system dominated by Satan the Devil.

Are Holidays Really Not Biblical For Jehovahs Witnesses?

I was raised to believe that all holidays (Archaic: HOLY DAYS) are evil. In fact anything that is festive or celebrated by non-JWs is off limits and if a JW partakes in any of the festivities, and the elders find out about it you can be shunned and even put out of the congregation.I was researching this teaching and comparing it with the Bible and I found an interesting point that Paul wrote in Collosians 2:16
"So don't let anyone judge you because of what you eat or drink. Don't let anyone judge you about holy days. I'm talking about special feasts and New Moons and Sabbath days."

Now I don't like to cherry pick scriptures so in reading the entire second chapter I find that the context of verses 6-23 seems to be not allowing yourself to be forced into following people's rules or rather being free from the rule of men through Christ Jesus.How would you interpret this scripture in the context of chapter two? Am I right or am I way off base here by having Thanksgiving Dinner here at my home and doing the whole Christmas celebration at my brother's house this year?

Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Question At Yahoo about Bethelites and Retirement

Will You Help Jehovah's Witnesses At Bethel To Get Retirement and Health Benefits?
Why did the Watchtower Society fight Bethelites all the way to the Supreme Court of Spain in order to keep them from receiving Social Security payments? Don't these hardworking men and women deserve at least some sort of Social Security as they retire? How about Bethel here in the United States and abroad? Bethelites are being dismissed in droves with no retirement or health benefits. Do they need to sue the Watchtower like the Spanish brothers had to? Maybe we should!Below are some references. The letters are in Spanish for obvious reasons. If you don't understand Spanish, find someone to help you. Letter From The Spanish Ministry of Labor and Social Affairs Part 1: http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/...Letter Conclusion: http://i429.photobucket.com/albums/qq19/...A video I made in support of a friend and his coworkers at Patterson Farm and the other USA Bethel Offices who have been turned tot he street for growing old and infirm:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrH8kpexi...

Wednesday, October 1, 2008

The Promise Of Paradise & A Shovel

My folks got that knock at the door and received a married couple that were preaching about a coming paradise. They promised them fellowship with a brotherhood of true Christians who worshiped God with Spirit and Truth. What they got was something different. But more on that later.

The first thing that happened was my dad lost his job and we lost our home, because my dad's boss was diametrically opposed to the Jehovah's witnesses and he called them Watchtowerites and Russellites. Past experience is my best guess as to why he called them that. Either way my dad and the rest of us were out on our collective ass.

The couple just happened to have a vacant apartment with a store-front that they could rent to us. (Turns out everyone that lived at the old boss's place got a visit from this couple and they were all streeted and wound up renting an apartment from the JWs.) So we moved in and my dad opened up a electronics and communications repair shop in the store-front and we lived in back.

The next door neighbors were also JWs and were very nice people. We became friends with the kids and my folks became friends with the sister who was divorced and raising her kids alone. I also began my first year of school in a town that hated the JWs. My teacher was the Devil in Drag and made no bones about wanting to kick my ass every time I didn't salute the flag or draw a jack o' lantern or whatever else my folks forbade me to do.

Of course I puked every single morning before I got to school (Until 11th grade) and I cried for my little brother at lunch for a week, because he and I always had lunch together. I was not allowed any friends except JW's and we were a definite minority in that podunk little town. So I spent my time doing homework, fretting over the next day of abuse at school, and going to meetings at the kingdom hall three days a week.

One fun thing that we did do was follow the brother/landlord around as he did chores on the property. We learned a lot about fishing too from him and gardening. Once my brother saw him covering up a water meter cover by kicking dirt onto it. (That is a good story)! My folks were studying the truth book with the landlord and his wife, going to all the JW meetings and planning on getting baptized. My dad also worked in his shop and got a good paying job out of town and my mom worked herself to death caring for us.

Several months later dad was paying bills and noticed that the water bill was FIVE TIMES higher than the month before. He was looking around to see if there was a leak or something and could not find the meter to trace back where the line was under the ground. He was looking and my brother asked him what he was looking for. He told him what it looked like and he said that So-and So had covered it up with dirt. He showed him where it was.

When he opened the cover my dad saw that all of the apartments and the landlord's house had their water lines going thru our meter. My folks were now supposed to foot the bill for everyone's water I guess. No way! LOL My dad went to talk with the landlord but he was not around, so my mom said that when dad was at work, if she saw him she would ask him to talk with dad about the water meter.

She got up Monday and saw the man walking the property. She confronted him with me in tow. It got ugly right away. He said it was not her place as a woman in God's arrangement to question him. She still demanded an answer and he got really upset and hit my mom across her hip with his shovel. She screamed in pain and told me to go get help. So I ran out to the highway and as luck would have it a State Trooper was driving by, so I flagged him down. My mom didn't press the charge but we did move. So much for the paradise and fellowship with a brotherhood of true Christians. That was when I had doubts about this group called Jehovah's Witnesses. But my folks stuck with it....